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Greetings to all, who dispell ignorance by sharing knowledge and wisdom!

I do not know the termonology of Music or Sound Healing, nor do I know if what I write is new age nonsense.

This is my 1st post and what I seek is using sound techniques to harmonize/clear/cleanse a space indoors and outdoors(e.g. room, house, garden...).
And if there are, can they also be applied to objects(minerals to be precise)?


Gratitude for your intention, of shedding light on the matter.
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I often use didgeridoo and voice to clear a space. I imagine connecting all the grid lines of the room with white light while continuously playing, toning or both.

Once I've made it all the way around the space returning to the same direction I started from, I envision the white light spreading across the walls, floor and ceiling. I see white pillars at each corner extending far into heaven and deep into earth.

I set intentions throughout this process from beginning to end. But each space is different.

Clearing a rock is similar except it usually happens in my hand. And I tend to just use my voice and intent to clear.

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Cultural traditions in relation to 'space clearing' are generally reserved for 'bell classifications' (ie Feng Shui), fumigations (ie Bon/Buddhist, Asian shamanic cultures, Native American) including incense, smudging etc. Mantars used by Himalayan shamanic groups, and Taonga Puoro of the Maori come to find in answering this inquiry.

Bells which are easy to come by, are used by many secular and non secular groups worldwide. The Dril-bhu or Ghanta was adopted by the Black Hat Feng shui sect, but they also incorporated the Shang as well. Used specifically for clearing space, pushing out stale energies, etc. Bonpo influenced 'spirit mediums' or lha-pa, dpa-mo, and lha-beb priests, as well as the Bomba, Paju, and Naxi shamans also use the Shang in reference to 'space clearing' rituals. I want to point out, that the groups I just mentioned incorporate mantra with the Shang, so just ringing a Shang does not complete the praxis in a traditional sense.

Intention is a big part of this, and almost any 'sound' could be used to clear space, but intention 'alone' is susceptible to being 'misplaced', or corrupted by misconceptions.

Fumigation, including the burning of salt in a pan or pot is another way of clearing or cleaning space. There are many references on the web explaining this methodology.

I hope this is helpful or useful.

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Experince has showed me that intent reinforced with words and clear vision of the goal are key factors for any practice. They seem to be interconnected has a trinity.


Quite often I am on the road and that limits what I can carry and do.

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Voice I don´t use so much because when other people(friends, strangers) are close by I prefer that they don´t know what am doing, to reduce there influence.
For minerals I also hold them or use a C5 tuning fork(got caught on the new age trends LOL) and it works however my collection is growing and doing it 1 by 1 is a very fastidious task. So something that suports me, in doing it once, for all of them is the quest!

Didgeridoo is not an option for me, something else you use?

And when you say each space is different.
Do you mean it in general way or on specific things (like acoustics, size of the space, or some other factor)?



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I do smuding but I am limited to where I can do it (e.g smoke detector at work, turning it of is a no, no). A while ago I found mention on the web that singing bowls cannot be used to clear space but only bells can do the job. I wonder why is that?! The only argument given was that you can direct the sound of the bell.

Now if almost any sound can be used! Then what characteristics should the sound have?




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 intent...and clear vision.... are key factors for any practice. 
Agreed.

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Now if almost any sound can be used! Then what characteristics should the sound have?
I would hesitate to say that the sounds used "should have" any particular characteristics. 

I will say that when I am doing a shamanic sound medicine experience for someone, or a group of someones, I often use several shakers and ankle bells for a sonic cleansing. Depending on place and time and what I have at hand to use, just about any instrument is possible. A kazoo can work quite well........[cool]

 

Smudging with sage or other 'medicinal smoke' has been shown to cleanse bacteria from the air of a room, and keep it away for significant time afterward. I'm not so sure that sound does the same thing.

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Visit often, read our many posts and articles, feel free to ask questions and contribute your thoughts and experiences!


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Hey RichG,

Thanks for your input!!

Any instrument is possible...Are the amplitude and frequnecy relevant at all??
Or its more where you direct the sound?? Or even the rythim?

Trying to understand the Basics to be able to use what I have at hand!!
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@Ofidio I totally get that you are trying to be discreet and effective. So I will also mention that some rocks just need permission to let go of old programs, whereas others need a push. Still others feel like they need an energetic crowbar sometimes! lol!

Why do you feel that using your voice clues people in on what you're doing? And also, why is that an issue? Isn't using an instrument to clear just as attention grabbing? What are you trying to hide about the process? Or why do you feel that you need to hide your work?

Not sound related, but certain minerals are also considered excellent at clearing others. Have you ever used those? Citrine and Kyanite come to mind in this case, and they arent too difficult to acquire.

Back to sound, perhaps acquiring a more pervasive instrument than a tuning fork would help you to clear more things at once. But crystals really respond best to sound + intention. Not just sound. Without your own energetic expertise, sound is just sound.

My experience has led me to feel most effective using instruments with a sustainable pitch like a flute, didgeridoo, voice, fiddle or gong.

Have you ever seen a "horizontal gong"? It's basically a handheld cymbal with a rope through the middle that you can suspend over things as you strike it with a mallet. This is fun for people and objects as well.

Oh and what I meant about "different" spaces was that the space itself has a memory much like a crystal. Concessions must be made with the energies that own the space when you aren't around. Sometimes it's better to make temporary agreements with those forces than trying to remove them. Unless the space is yours, I recommend just asking permission to be there free of obstruction while you're around and being thankful for the space. Setting a grid of grounding and energetic sovereignty is always an important part of the process for me when I do group and individual sound healing!

Aloha ~ John
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Hey RichG,

Thanks for your input!!

Any instrument is possible...Are the amplitude and frequnecy relevant at all??
Or its more where you direct the sound?? Or even the rythim?


Personally I do not feel that the amplitude or frequency are too particularly relevant, just that it exists within 'normal' comfortable ranges. (I wouldn't use a sine wave oscillator at 20Hz nor an amped distorted guitar turned up to eleven, for instance...though the latter can be quite 'cleansing' in the right hands and circumstances.)

I find it to be mostly about the attunement of the practitioner - what spirit, what consciousness are you/they bringing through? That's what matters, and whether you're using a drum, gong, flute, shakers or kazoo etc , the instrument is a vehicle for the sound and the sound is a vehicle for the spirit - so I'm more concerned about the spirit.

But all of this brings up the most fundamental question: what exactly is one attempting to clear or cleanse? As mentioned, medicinal smoke smudging actually significantly cleanses the air of germs and bacteria. But what are we cleansing with sound? I'd like a better answer than the rather nebulous "vibes". Or is that exactly it?

And if it's just the 'vibes' left over from the previous use of a space, maybe a well played instrument of any sort can clear them, regardless of "spiritual attunement of the practitioner"? Yes? No? Maybe?

And are we really clearing the space or are we in actuality retuning ourselves - tuning ourselves up to present use presence?


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Really great insight Rich! I love the idea that we are really re-tuning ourselves.
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Why do you feel that using your voice clues people in on what you're doing? And also, why is that an issue? Isn't using an instrument to clear just as attention grabbing? What are you trying to hide about the process? Or why do you feel that you need to hide your work?


While backpacking, I end up sharing bunk bed rooms with ALL kinds of people. So the more mundane the "practice" appears, the less interest it arises in them, the more I am let be.



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Not sound related, but certain minerals are also considered excellent at clearing others. Have you ever used those? Citrine and Kyanite come to mind in this case, and they arent too difficult to acquire.


I do have them. Haven´t use them in that sense. I guess in order to work in a backpack scenario, I would need to wrap the "cleanser" & "dirty"(lol) together



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Oh and what I meant about "different" spaces was that the space itself has a memory much like a crystal. Concessions must be made with the energies that own the space when you aren't around. Sometimes it's better to make temporary agreements with those forces than trying to remove them. Unless the space is yours, I recommend just asking permission to be there free of obstruction while you're around and being thankful for the space. Setting a grid of grounding and energetic sovereignty is always an important part of the process for me when I do group and individual sound healing!


First time hearing this. Any literarure or other resources for getting familiar with it?
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I find it to be mostly about the attunement of the practitioner - what spirit, what consciousness are you/they bringing through? That's what matters, and whether you're using a drum, gong, flute, shakers or kazoo etc , the instrument is a vehicle for the sound and the sound is a vehicle for the spirit - so I'm more concerned about the spirit.


Thank you for making that evident!!


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But all of this brings up the most fundamental question: what exactly is one attempting to clear or cleanse? As mentioned, medicinal smoke smudging actually significantly cleanses the air of germs and bacteria. But what are we cleansing with sound? I'd like a better answer than the rather nebulous "vibes". Or is that exactly it?


At this life point, I feel the need to create a space(sacred) where I am( at home or on the road), that helps me balance. And I am exploring practical ways of achieving that. By practical I mean; doesn´t require an arsenal of artifacts or needs hours to be done.


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And are we really clearing the space or are we in actuality retuning ourselves - tuning ourselves up to present use presence?


Not entirely related with clearing pratice. However when I care for crystalls or go around a room with incense, I fell a sense of balance.

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First time hearing this. Any literarure or other resources for getting familiar with it?


I'm going to let my freak flag fly here bro. There may be other books out there that can assist you on your path. But these are the ones I have come into contact with that have helped me develop my energetic skills.

The Pleiadian Workbook by Amorah Quan Yin. I haven't read the whole book. But there are some really great meditative exercises in there that will get you on the right track for visualizing and internalizing your work. 

I would also recommend the book Love is In the Earth by Melody if you haven't read that. She also released a book called "the Laying on of Stones". That might help as well.

Well, good luck! 

aloha ~ 

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Thanks for sharing [smile]
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