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The idea and exploration of "Sacred Geometry" is one that gets a lot of mention and attention in the contemporary new age and spiritual scenes, including in the sound healing community.

But what really is "sacred geometry"? 
I know what geometry is, and I know what sacred means, but what is sacred about 'sacred geometry'? 
What makes it different from 'not sacred geometry'?

Geometry exists, it's part of life. Thus, is not all geometry sacred - or conversely, all geometry secular?

Please share and discuss your thoughts, wisdom and knowledge...
Thank you!


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Sacred - 
adjective: connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.
Geometry - noun: the branch of mathematics concerned with the properties and relations of points, lines, surfaces, solids, and higher dimensional analogs.

 

 


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In my experience, and as I have been self-trained following some of the classic SG texts, “sacred Geometry” does not refer to any particular shapes as being more sacred than others. Rather, Sacred Geometry is a path of exploring geometrical constructions as a window into the Divine... into the essential forms of creation that are in the roots of all that surrounds us.

In pop culture, people present some of the primary forms used in SG constructions as if they are more sacred than others. I believe that people who do this have not studied or practiced SG and are therefore unfamiliar with its traditions.
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Is the tradition an ancient one?

Yeah, I'm one who has only really gotten it from popular/new age culture in which certain geometric designs are often supposed to be "really powerful".
Years ago I knew someone who made a whole series of designs - they were his constructions, not patterns found in nature. He said it was sacred geometry and claimed they were portals of consciousness and displayed them so viewers could sit and gaze at them and receive some sort of awakening or spiritual insight or something mystical or cosmic. I tried it but received nothing. To me they were just symetrical black and white line drawings with no special powers. Interesting for a few moments, and obviously requiring time and patience to create, but no special spiritual powers. Maybe I missed something that others may have gotten.

With other more commonly held images, like the Flower of Life, or the Sri Yantra, or the Tai Chi Tu (is that one even considered 'sacred geometry'?), I still don't receive and special 'hits' or cosmic portal transmutations, but I can see how contemplating them can be a window into the Devine, if that is one's intent when viewing and contemplating them.


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When Thomas started talking about an SG, I got all excited about my guitar for a second. My SG is totally sacred; and the P90 pickups therein open portals to the Gods of Rock regularly! 

I agree that the term Sacred Geometry is an often mis-used term to promote feelings of reverence in an audience that might not otherwise "get it". In this kind of usage, it's basically a New Age marketing tool that ropes people into checking out an unexplored realm of shape and dimension (often with psychedelic color added for enjoyment).

The worst part about this is that it leads many to believe in a very reductionist viewpoint on what Sacred Geometry is or is not. 

The best part about this is that it can bring some people deep enough in (in a short amount of time or exposure) to decide to explore the topic and find out what it means to them.

Is this hype or sensationalized definition always a bad thing however? Maybe it is. But I'll freely admit that my initial forays into studying things like the Flower of Life books and meditation by Drunvalo Melchizedek are what got me here today. Even at the time I started, I could pretty easily tell that there wasn't a lot of actual true energy or facts in these books and practices. The stories were sensational and fun to read, much like a fantasy novel would be. But the various ways in which he was attempting to create a more unified field of information with regard to the human body, energy centers, and layers of consciousness with geometric overlays was inspiring. 

Although, at this point I think of Drunvalo as pretty fraudulent and second hand. But the idea of unifying geometry and our human system is just like Kepler attempting to resolve the Harmonices Mundi. There may always be these little schisms of difference and variance that won't allow us to say that we have incontrovertible evidence that shows that our entire universe is built upon an implicate order of harmony and geometric truth. However, things are so close, that it is also hard to shoo these ideas off completely.

For me, the most sacred geometry that I study currently is made up of the Platonic Solids. I feel like these shapes are pretty EPIC with regards to how well they seem to work within my own system of sound healing and my understanding of how energy moves in a Five-Element system. I also like to consider other shapes in the Archimedean set. But the 5 Platonic geometries the Octahedron, Tetrahedron, Hexahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron (and their associated elements Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal and Water, respectively) seem to offer so much insight when studied. I love the way they nest, and the different harmonic properties they exhibit. To me they are musical and quite inspiring!

I am also fascinated with cymatics. I think if anything, the experiments being done in this realm will continue to offer great insight into how sound might effect our inner and outer physioenergetic systems! 

Thanks for bringing up this topic Rich! I hope we can continue explore the geometry of sound in lasting and meaningful ways together!

Aloha ~ John

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Thanks, John! Good insights and perspectives. You and others I am sure know a lot more about this topic than I do. Thanks for posting.

About a month ago Thomas posted a video on facebook of a geometric shape that he built and fitted with a microphone and audio input and beginning with white noise and recirculating the resonant frequencies came up with the harmonic signature of the shape (I'm pretty sure it was an octahedron but can't remember for certain). Did you see it? If not, he can tell you much more about it than I, and maybe post the video link here in this thread.


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That is really exciting stuff! I am looking forward to dropping in to TOA’s incredible content!

Although I’ve been studying geometry and its relationship to sound for nearly two decades, I wouldn’t say that I “know” very much. This helps me to stay open to new information as it becomes available to me.

However, I study it as much as I can so I can keep moving forward with the application of the information.

I think sometimes my least favorite thing about using the term “Sacred” with regards to Geometry (or anything really) is that it seems to separate something very important from true Joy.

So many practitioners seem to translate “sacredness” into a sense of emotional sterility. Where anything delivered with a sense of emotional charge or even humor is somehow “profane”.

I don’t really trust someone who comes across as “enlightened” if they take themselves too seriously. And I feel like applying the term “Sacred” to Geometry is taking it too seriously.
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Here's Thomas Orr Anderson's Octahedron resonance experiment.

It's a facebook link. (I don't know how that will translate if you're not an FB user)
I'm not sure if it's on YouTube.



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Yes, this is really cool! I am looking forward to hearing the other platonic fingerprints! <3
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