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Recently, I participated in a group mindfulness practice. My teacher took us inward and we were asked to describe what we saw, heard and felt. We were in an 1800 s.f. room with a very high ceiling. The heater was blasting and it was loud. No surprise that I heard that, but what surprised me was what I heard within that sound. When I focused on the tone, I realized I was hearing an entire spectrum of sound. I seemed to be hearing that one note in 7 octaves. At least that's how many I could count before the experience faded. 

It made me wonder about a few things.
1. Maybe I hear that way all the time and don't realize it. I know I have super hearing. I've been awakened by the sound of a small cockroach crossing a room. I've also heard the sound the rock makes at Joshua Tree, once on acid, once without. It is the lowest tone I've ever heard with the slowest oscillation of sound waves. 
My sight and hearing senses are sometimes hard to separate. Sometimes I can see a person walking quite a distance away and their movement has sound to me, even though I shouldn't logically be able to hear anything. 
2. Maybe this ability to hear so many octaves (overtones?) all at once is the reason my voice is so big. People don't live in vacuums. The sound we make with our voices is a conglomeration of sounds we've heard, filtered and recycled through our own consciousness. Perhaps I'm simply imitating the vastness of the sound current I'm hearing. 

I'm not used to articulating these things, but I figured this would be a good place to start. Thanks for providing a forum for discussing such things. 

Does anyone else hear like this? 

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Hearing is a creative process. We don't hear sound - we create it within. Every sound we hear is created. We detect vibrations through our sense of touch. We then translate the vibrations into the experience of sound. We also fill in the gaps and invent sounds, so what you hear may have a correlate vibration or not - they may be sounds in your creative imagination. We also fill in gaps in sound, so some of those octaves may be your mind completing the picture for you. Some people absolutely "see" sound. It's all part of the creative and interpretive process.
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Yes it is true.  Large bodies of rock do make sounds.  The rock body nearest me is Enchanted Rock Natural State Area and it is known for its ghostly sound emissions, caused by expansion and contraction due to heat and cold.  Red Rocks near Las Vegas also makes sounds as well as J-Tree. 

Did you know that sand makes sounds too?  Large dunes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_sand

One of my fave artists made recordings of sand dunes for a musical piece.
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Thank you Joseph for that explanation of how we create sound. I have also been able to see sound at times.

Some years ago I was using toning for release. I came to believe that if I had created everything I see in my life, either by conscious choice, unconscious choice or soul contract, I could release everything I had created. After months of doing this work, one day as I was toning, I saw the sound waves. They began somewhere behind me and I couldn't see where they ended. My response was one of wonder. I wondered what would happen if I continued toning with an intention of love. I gathered the feeling of love in my heart and began toning with that intention. The sound waves turned into white light and little dark specks were revealed. The white light dissipated all of the darkness.

This was a monumental experience in cultivating the intention of love with my voice. I've charmed animals with the intention of love, the first being a massive bull, have helped in many healing processes. A couple of times when I've sung fun, happy songs, a person burst into tears because it triggered their heart to release some ancient hurt. 

Kit, I love Enchanted Rock and Red Rocks. The desert fascinates me. I lived in Jerusalem once upon a time and ran through the hills often. 

Hope you all enjoy the sounds of your day! 

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It sounds to me like the essence of visualization. There's a reason people combine chant and visualization. We detect vibrations through our senses but how we interpret them is subjective. Meditation practices help you train your mind with such visualizations to improve destructive emotions and purify our point of view.
It sounds like you are very creative and spiritual so you're doing a lot with the vibrational information your senses pick up. I think it's important for us creative types to remember that it's our perspective and point of view that we're experiencing. It's our view of the world and our way of Interpreting the huge amount of sense information coming our way. Your way is certainly more interesting than someone without much imagination. It sounds like your imagination serves you well in interpreting what is happening around you.
I think toning and any vibrational practice is a great way to interact with our environment and other beings around us. There's always information coming back and it's just a matter of listening with your whole being, just as you describe. Try echolocation next time you're out in a rocky area - play a singing bowl or other instrument that really travels. I bet you can see the whole landscape with sound. You can also use it in sound healing and other practices, I'm sure.
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Yes, Joseph, I am very creative and have a very interesting life. I actually came into this life remembering yoga and meditation, so yes, I have been meditating a long time. That explains my subjective experiences.  

On the other hand, the way people and animals respond to my sounds indicates there's more going on beyond my own subjective experience. [smile] It is good to get the feedback. Will try echolation when I'm in a rocky area next. Are you saying I an use echolation in sound healing practices? 

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It's not to say everything is subjective, although our interpretation is. We are also part of a larger life with all the laws of the universe at play. We certainly can interact with others and the environment. Life would be unimaginable if we were truly individuals, alone.
Sound is a great way to find our place with others and within the environment.
Really this whole discussion is relying on "I" statements, so it's imperfect. Don't take it as "true." It's my point of view and someone could take issue with that. But that's ok - we have to start somewhere. It's too difficult to say "everything is vibration - have fun." But in a way...
With sound healing you get the opportunity to experience everything - individual subjective experience, shared collective experience, plus spiritual experience that blow those definitions apart.
So what is happening? How can sound travel through walls and seem to circumvent all the limitations we are subject to? Sound let's us break the walls of perception and catch a glimpse of the inner workings of life. That's why people are always talking about spiritual experience and quantum physics in relation to sound.
Even if I don't understand all the processes, I can still interact with them. That's the point in sound healing. We're interacting with the mysterious forces of life, observing and influencing what we can.
I think it's important not to decide. Don't say "this happened for this reason." Banish the word "because" from your vocabulary. We don't know why. But we can still dance with the phenomenon and help people.
So here we go - echolocation is making a sound and hearing the echo come back. From that you can imagine a landscape. Sonic devices do the same thing - ultrasound can image a baby in the womb.
I think it's one of the main processes at work in sound healing. When you play a sound for a client, they listen, feel, interpret and respond. You also listen, feel, interpret and respond. The sound healer unconsciously observes and the client unconsciously picks up on it. The client then has an observer, which any therapist knows is a very powerful type of interaction. In a real sense you lend your nervous system to the client. So what's the individual experience and what's not? Hold a singing bowl and play it. The vibration blurs the lines between individual reality and...everything.
We can come to realize the feeling of what is and thereby gain knowledge through experience. It's not knowledge by theory or decision. It's knowledge by trust and aligning oneself with nature. Use vibration to achieve greater and greater refinement. This is a type of organic learning - learning by action and experience. Improvement through learning and experience. Dancing on the edge of the unknown and so coming to know life a little better, step by step.
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Bats also navigate by echolocation.
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It actually works - we can also imagine a landscape from echoes. I've done it with singing bowls.
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